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Title: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 11, 2008, 01:36:54 PM
Anyone else planning on buying Warhammer: Age of Reckoning?

I'm in the closed beta, and have already pre-ordered.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2008, 03:15:14 PM
I heard only like 1/3rd of content under development is able to be used/played at launch


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 11, 2008, 03:43:09 PM
You heard wrong... sorta.

They did cut 4 classes out... from 24.  So there are only 20 classes left to choose from.  /sigh

And they did remove 4 cities... kind of.

WAR is a Realm vs. Realm MMORPG.  The original 6 "cities" were going to be the culmination of the clash between Order and Destruction.  The cities have now been replaced by "fortresses", which after taking 2 of the 3 opposing faction's fortresses, opens the opposing faction's single major city.

I think this may actually help the PvP in WAR.  Instead of having the entire realm spread out across 3 major cities, the entire server's focus is entirely in one zone... bringing massive battles to take/defend the city.

So, yeah, they did cut some content.  However, how can you cut something that you never had to begin with?  WAR will be what it is, even with those changes.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 11, 2008, 07:15:45 PM
I applied for beta.Waiting for the email :)


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on August 12, 2008, 09:01:18 AM
this pod cast might help

i will be there  allready got my preorder also   :v:


check it out     war is coming
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008-07_podcast.html


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 12, 2008, 12:31:20 PM
I applied for beta.Waiting for the email :)

I waited over a year for my invite... there are only around 32k people in the closed beta.  Over 800k have applied.  Still worth it!



i will be there  allready got my preorder also   :v:

Did you order the SE or the CE?  And I'll be rolling Destruction, probably a Black Orc.  I'll post what server I plan on rolling on when the Head Start begins.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on August 12, 2008, 01:08:50 PM
I got the se  .. But i am hoping to get a copy the the AGDC<crosses fingers>.
Have not made up my mind on server,class, etc  yet


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 12, 2008, 02:13:00 PM
Nice!

Where did you pre-order from?  Are you going to be in the open beta?

Honestly, I can't wait to try Tier IV RvR to see what the classes are like at the higher levels.  That will probably finalize what class I'll roll for the head start as my main.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on August 20, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
So me and Josh Oakly were talking last saturday and discussed setting up a guild when WAR goes live/headstart any interest? figured i'd bump this post up since it was already made.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Jeff on August 20, 2008, 08:19:25 PM
WAR open beta starting sept 9th or something...ill update closer to date.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 21, 2008, 06:52:36 AM
So me and Josh Oakly were talking last saturday and discussed setting up a guild when WAR goes live/headstart any interest? figured i'd bump this post up since it was already made.

I would be interested if it is free to play.I am playing Eve Online and I don't think I will have the funds for another payment in september


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Jeff on August 21, 2008, 06:54:41 AM
WAR is subscription


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 21, 2008, 06:58:19 AM
WAR is subscription

I know,but I meant the open beta being free


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 21, 2008, 03:16:54 PM
The open beta begins on September 7th. 

I've got a couple of RL friends I game with that are going to play, and hopefully several more as release gets closer (including some old skool LcT folks like Skyy and ArabianGoggles).

I'll post up what server we (my 2 RL buddies and I) roll on and character names tomorrow when the Preview Weekend starts, if anyone is interested.

The game is a lot of fun.  They took some great ideas from successful games like WoW, included pvp as a staple of the game and designed around it like DAoC, threw in some revolutionary new ideas and created a very nice product.  It's not perfect in terms of mechanics, there are some things that I would have done differently - but in all honesty I really haven't used those tools enough to determine if they really are teh suck.

The released a new cinematic at the GC yesterday.  Pretty freakin' nice.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/WAR_cinematic_08.html

Also, not to be outdone, Blizzard releases new Wrath of the Lich King expansion cinematic today also.
http://www.bigdownload.com/games/world-of-warcraft-wrath-of-the-lich-king/pc/wrath-of-the-lich-king-cinematic-trailer/


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 21, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
Just so that I understand.Does WaR has a storyline?
Is the gameplay similar to WoW in the sense that you can do quests and such,or is it straight PVP?

And tomorrow I am going to reserve the game,so I will also be in the open beta :)
By the way,I am assuming that the game which will be sold starting on the 16th will also come with 30 days free trial :)


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on August 21, 2008, 05:12:02 PM
so the server select part of the client is up, any objection to rolling on skull throne for PW weekend?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 21, 2008, 05:15:18 PM
so the server select part of the client is up, any objection to rolling on skull throne for PW weekend?

By the way,what is this PW weekend?
Is it open to everyone(open beta) participants or is it just for closed beta people?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on August 21, 2008, 05:19:54 PM
it is for all curent beta participants, colectors edition pre orders, and the first 50k standard edition to register their codes (about a week ago). it's just a little time in game before OB starts on the 7th of next month. OB will be for all preorders and curent beta participants.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 21, 2008, 06:21:20 PM
Cool
And so the game we get on pre-order(buy on september 16th) is the full online game.And that means that once the beta is over,all characters will be deleted,correct?
Also,wondering about the specs.
I am playing WoW,America online and Eve Online without any problems


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on August 21, 2008, 06:42:03 PM
if you can run wow on med-high, you can run war. as for character wipes, im not sure how preview weekend will cary into OB but OB will be wiped pryor to head start (the 3-4 days before release that all pre orders get to play) and characters made in head start WILL cary into live. also there is a rather large gap between preview weekend and OB, preview weekend is just that, a weekend, this friday-monday then idk if it's more CB or all servers down untill OB on 7th


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on August 21, 2008, 06:57:08 PM
got my preview invite , ill post here what server for this weekend i'll be playing on
ill be rolling a white lion and a shamen ;0 :ph34r:


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on August 21, 2008, 07:01:48 PM
yep, got in, patched up, camping the computer. me and a friend decided to go with skull throne, any objection?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on August 21, 2008, 08:04:37 PM
yep, got in, patched up, camping the computer. me and a friend decided to go with skull throne, any objection?


sounds like a plan :cool:


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 21, 2008, 08:44:46 PM

sounds like a plan :cool:

I will be part of the Live head start,I think,so I should keep my character :)
The server sounds cool.I am hoping I will be there tomorrow evening :)


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 22, 2008, 06:57:43 AM
Skull Throne is cool.  I sent an email to my buddies about that, so we'll be on tonight.

-EDIT-

Soooo... Skull Throne is full atm, and they're throwing up more servers as each new one fills up.  I'll post again when we pick our server this evening.  Get my number from Patrick, if you don't see anything from me later.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 22, 2008, 06:16:18 PM
anything new?which server?I am ready to get started here :)


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 22, 2008, 07:41:20 PM
I have problems logging for patching.
Basically it doesn't recognize my password.
I have tried changing the pass and such,but nothing
and now it tells me there is a communication error or something


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 23, 2008, 10:48:33 AM
I know Av and I have been texting each other this morning, but for everyone else - Abhorash server, Truella is my char.

Others to look for are: spodium and rix


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 23, 2008, 01:19:18 PM
It seems Preview Weekend is only for a select few.
Anyone knows when open beta really starts,so that all of us who bought the pre-order can get in


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on August 23, 2008, 02:12:01 PM
war is the shiznit!!!11!! :bleh:

I love getting exp for killing players  and public quest are cool 2 ..
I am playing all night tonight ,well after eve for a lil  :ph34r:


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2008, 02:57:05 PM
you guys in the beta because you pre-ordered? any other way to get in?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 24, 2008, 11:36:14 AM
I was in the closed beta, which put me in the preview weekend.  All Collector's Edition pre-orders were sent an invitation to the preview weekend also.  I read that there were 50,000 standard edition pre-orders that were invited as well.

Overall, lots of fun.

I've also been working on a side project with my two buddies, Bear and Rix.  We're putting together a weekly podcast about WAR and have produced around 5 episodes thus far.  We've only release parts of one show, as the first several were really trial runs as we learned the ropes of creating a broadcast.

The website is waaaghradio.com so check it out.  We've got a test site up in the background.  We haven't moved it to the front page of the domain yet, but that is coming in the next few days.  Our next episode will be recorded the weekend the open beta starts, which is on September 7th.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 24, 2008, 11:38:19 AM
Cool.Great idea
Why not do it as part of LcT?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on August 24, 2008, 11:40:09 AM
We're actually hoping that WaaaghRadio.com will lead to a source of revenue, so we'll likely keep it as its own entity.  We are, however, always scouting for talent to produce other podcasts for this online radio station of sorts.

We've done the whole guild leadership thing (several times over) and are not really interested in running our own guild.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on August 24, 2008, 11:43:19 AM
We're actually hoping that WaaaghRadio.com will lead to a source of revenue, so we'll likely keep it as its own entity.  We are, however, always scouting for talent to produce other podcasts for this online radio station of sorts.

We've done the whole guild leadership thing (several times over) and are not really interested in running our own guild.

I am not talking about running a guild.I am talking about the radio being part of LcT.As far as revenues,talk to Surge as to what is possible


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on August 25, 2008, 07:15:19 AM
/sigh, PW's over, back to sitting and waiting on WAR


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 04, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
Woot! Mythik anounced a second PW for those involved in the first one prior to this sunday's OB. if you were in the first one, you will be able to log on again tomorow morning. Skull Throne again anyone? that's where i'll be at least. (characters from last PW will not be available to my understanding, servers have been wiped.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 04, 2008, 03:17:35 PM
Awesome!  I guess they're looking to test the 4.1 patch.

I copied the notes that were posted (accidentally, due to miscommunication between GOA and Mythic) and will pass them along to anyone who is interested in reading them, but you'll probably just see them when you log in tomorrow.



Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 04, 2008, 03:23:22 PM
those were mostly/all edited out by the time i heard about it, care to throw them up?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 04, 2008, 03:33:51 PM
The patcher for PW2 is up if you wan't to get a head start on it. Don't see any notes though...must obsess more!


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 04, 2008, 04:36:21 PM
Thanks for the heads up on the patch.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 04, 2008, 07:36:36 PM
I can't wait for sunday.Sunday I will be all over that game :)


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 04, 2008, 09:26:20 PM
btw, if it's your first time playing, give it a few hours before giving up. i've had several friends play it and refuse to play it again because the begining is so bad, especialy the elf area, but it gets MUCH better.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 04, 2008, 11:12:05 PM
rgr that
And someone needs to tell me which server we will be on sunday


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 05, 2008, 10:09:26 AM
Servers are up.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 05, 2008, 01:41:05 PM
rgr that
And someone needs to tell me which server we will be on sunday

I'm on Helbrass.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 05, 2008, 03:02:07 PM
Skull Throne wasn't up this PW so i went Crag Mere since it had the highest pop.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 05, 2008, 03:37:40 PM
dont even remember what server i rolled on lol


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 05, 2008, 04:19:46 PM
old toons aren't there, so it doesn't mater


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 05, 2008, 04:31:08 PM
And they'll wipe again before the 14th, when the head start for CE pre-orders begins.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 05, 2008, 04:35:48 PM
aw man, we just got our virtual asses handed to us by maitenance :/...LET ME BACK IN!!!!


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 07, 2008, 09:14:20 AM
no i know my toon were not there  i was saying i dont know what server i rerolled on

also not sure if they are getting my 50 bukks , if i get a free copy @ the agdc then i am in  [g]1


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 07, 2008, 09:21:19 AM
no i know my toon were not there  i was saying i dont know what server i rerolled on

also not sure if they are getting my 50 bukks , if i get a free copy @ the agdc then i am in  [g]1

LOL
How about you get me also a free copy at AGDC? ;)
I am going to go to the Crade server as soon as the game updates and I am stopping my WoW subscription


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 07, 2008, 12:03:26 PM
So I created a character,but I am unable to play.I am like crashing non-stop.And no errors.
Any ideas?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 07, 2008, 01:37:54 PM
hmmm...crash to desktop or to server/character screen? and what server were you trying at what time? have been several down time periods on diffent servers for updates.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 07, 2008, 01:40:31 PM
hmmm...crash to desktop or to server/character screen? and what server were you trying at what time? have been several down time periods on diffent servers for updates.

crash to desktop.And the server is Abhorea or something


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 07, 2008, 01:52:12 PM
wierd, if it was a ctd it wasn't the server...idk man, mine has only crahsed once...ever...


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 07, 2008, 03:46:05 PM
From what I've read, the CTDs are happening to a very small portion of the population.  It appears to be a video card issue.  Have you tweaked any of the video settings from the default?  If so, reset them and that should work for you.  You may have to do this through your config and not in-game if you keep crashing on login.

A couple of my friends had CTD issues earlier in the beta (before PW1), but one upgraded his video card and has yet to have another CTD and the other hasn't had one since the patch after PW1.  I've never had a CTD in my beta experience.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 07, 2008, 05:21:31 PM
Get it working?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 07, 2008, 05:50:10 PM
Get it working?

not yet.will try tomorrow
and I haven't modified my settings either.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 08, 2008, 08:19:14 AM
LOL
How about you get me also a free copy at AGDC? ;)
I am going to go to the Crade server as soon as the game updates and I am stopping my WoW subscription
dont want to diss the game,  but i been there done that feeling...Now if they offer a DAOC/warhammer combo for subs i am in like flin
I guess i am growing tired of kill 100 spiders type games , the public quest are neat  a new feature that i think we will see alot of ..
The game just doesnt grab me like DAOC,EVE,SWG,COX,WOW did ... well see i guess  atm COH/Eve get my cash


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 08, 2008, 10:26:30 AM
You don't get good pvp action like DAoC until Tier II and keep sieges.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 08, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
yes i am aware but , classes are just a lil cookie cutter imo .
i am not trying to bash the game it will do good just this is all IMO
But i am going back to daoc  for origins though :)

check it out
http://www.camelotherald.com/news/news_article.php?storyid=3582  :v:





Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 08, 2008, 12:10:04 PM
You're right, but how far can you really stray from the tank, healer, and dps (ranged and melee) archetype?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 08, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
i miss hybrid classes :) pet classes :) ohh and sandboxes :wacko:


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 08, 2008, 02:57:54 PM
for working within the necesary MMO class molds, it think they have some fairly unique classes.

Healer that stabs people and uses their soul to heal
Healer that casts faster by damaging and vise versa
tanks that can anctualy controll people in PvP
ranged and mele pet classes ranged having multiple and disposable pets
ranged nukers that can trade the risk of killing themselves to hit like a semi falling on your head
turet style pet classes

but idk, to each their own i guess


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 08, 2008, 04:55:32 PM
Yeah, I thought they had some inventive combat structure with classes like the warrior priest, shaman, black orc, and other.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 08, 2008, 08:46:42 PM
for working within the necesary MMO class molds, it think they have some fairly unique classes.

Healer that stabs people and uses their soul to heal
Healer that casts faster by damaging and vise versa
tanks that can anctualy controll people in PvP
ranged and mele pet classes ranged having multiple and disposable pets
ranged nukers that can trade the risk of killing themselves to hit like a semi falling on your head
turet style pet classes

but idk, to each their own i guess


maybee TCOS will have what im looking for ...
take daoc for example the Bonedancer class   Pets that can dps,heal,mez,cast spells,granted you had to train the skill tree <not talent points>
And as far as tanks controlling  i dont aggre IMO tank classes in aoc had better aoe's knockback's etc ..
Also what ever happend to mes,roots<not slows>,fear etc ..Does being mezed by a class make peeps mad now and they start to QQ?

Lol anyways i am tired and im off to bed . Be on the lookout for a new build tom if you wanna test <i can use all of you guys/gals >



Night  :blink:


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 08, 2008, 10:16:29 PM
Well,when I created my character I couldn't choose the Crede server,so I went to Abhorea or whatever the server name is.Which server is everyone else on?
Is it possible to change servers?


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Bainik on September 09, 2008, 04:53:02 AM
I'm on Crag Mere, and yes you can change servers, but if you meant character transfers, no you can't. if you want to play on another just hit servers and pick one.


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 09, 2008, 03:48:18 PM
a copy paste from another forum

sums it up nice for me

post is called review Meh from mmorpg.com :sleep:

Sum up my opinion in one word: meh.

Nice graphics, most are higher res than WoW (with some glaring exceptions which hopefully are temporary, otherwise they'd ruin the overall look). Captures the warhammer style perfectly. Performance is decent, runs quite well on a nice rig with some hitching, usually due to sudden loading of a huge number of PCs / NPCs.  Distant terrain textures look pretty awful (unless there is a hidden option to change this, i have everything maxed).

The biggest problem is the gameplay...mostly the combat system.  It has this disconnected, artificial and clunky feeling to it...hard to explain it exactly, but to me there's 2 big issues.  One, the animations and effects are REALLY POOR.  Characters stiffly attack eachother with some puny little poofs and explosions to mark hits.  Spells are a little more elaborate (BW AOEs are cool), but otherwise nothing great.  Character movement / combat animations remind me of Vanguard at launch.  Taking a comparison from WoW, character movement there is very fluid, I wouldn't be surprised if it was motion captured, even.  EQ2 also...the detail and elaborate, fluid motion in both games is a major point of immersion.

Second, combat is essentially a button-spam.  There is no real sense of danger, or strategy, or challenge.  Hit that one or two attacks until you kill your enemy, or run out of AP (if you do, autoattack for a few seconds, and repeat).  You'll get more attacks / abilities as you level up, but they don't feel any different.  Its basically a "whack-a-mole" system.  Perhaps this turns around entirely above 20, but its hard to imagine why that would happen.  Overall, its boring, and although I know low-level combat is supposed to be easy & forgiving, most other games I know of are a lot more dangerous for newbies, and require much more careful timing / management that WAR.  People accuse WoW of being the same kindof 1 or 2 attack spam, but i don't know of anybody that can play that way successfully, even at low levels, without dying quite frequently.

PQs...don't feel strongly either way on them.  An interesting feature that encourages people to get together and bash some mobs in a small space with little risk.

RvR, scenarios:  Lets be honest, these are battlegrounds.  Take the first one i did as Chaos, Nordenwatch (sp?)  Might as well call it AB, with 3 bases and a shorter resource timer.  My understanding is that this type of thing is the major focus of endgame...if so, I wll pass, as I have spent more time in AV than any human should and can't realy take any more of that kind of thing.

I think, overall, that the game is far too easy.  I have died exactly once on 6 characters, due to falling a large distance (losing 3/4+ health) then being attacked by several mobs.  Most places i want to go i can just train right through mobs to get there.  I barely look at my HP b/c i know nothing will happen to me.  Its the ultimate refinement of the WoW-style, western MMO--super easy & fast progression--combined with an endgame that is essentially endless battleground-style RVR.  Yawn.

 

Summary:  It's a perfectly competent WoW clone, that will be successful, at least in the short term, because of one thing:  It's like WoW, but it isn't WoW.  I.E., it will attract the WoW crowd that is bored with the game at the moment but until now couldn't find anything remotely competitive.

I feel little motivation to continue.  Combat is boring, in PVE / PVP.  The combat system itself feels wrong, unnatural, clunky.  There is no sense of challenge, effort, peril...anything that makes a good GAME.  I'm rather dissappointed, I had some high hopes for this one.  Should have a bigger launch than AoC, then settle towards a respectable, but not dominating population (500k-1mil).  Not bad, but not great.  I likely will cancel my pre-order, since its unlikely i will want to pay for the game if i'm already disinterested in the beta.

Numerical rating?  6, maybe 7 out of 10.  Letter grade?

FLAME ON!
 


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: avguste on September 09, 2008, 10:37:50 PM
Nothing to flame really.
The little I have played it sure looks similar to WoW.However I wouldn't be against LcT having an Warhammer guild
I am actually waiting also on Runes of Magic


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Xenolancer on September 18, 2008, 08:29:22 PM
Nothing to flame really.
The little I have played it sure looks similar to WoW.However I wouldn't be against LcT having an Warhammer guild
I am actually waiting also on Runes of Magic


heheheh that was a post from mmorpg not mine mate !


Title: Re: WAR!
Post by: Tru. on September 19, 2008, 12:39:42 PM
If you're playing WAR, come find me on the Tower of Doom server.  I've got a Marauder there named Tru.